Wednesday, April 23, 2014

Trinitarians: what exactly did Jesus sacrifice?


Trinitarians have told me that Jesus took back the same body that was crucified and that Jesus didn't die because he is the immortal second person of the Trinitarian Godhead and that he also has an immortal soul.

So, the person of Jesus didn't die, it was his human nature that died, but he got that back when that was resurrected and rejoined with his immortal soul and divine nature which obviously never died.

So since Jesus AS A PERSON never died (as he was conscious as a divine person and an immortal soul while his human nature was dead) and since he got his same body back, then what exactly did Jesus sacrifice?

References:

“Jesus died physically, but remained alive spiritually,” and that Jesus’ “essence did not die, nor could it” and “His physical body died, but His inner being is eternal and could not die.” (Houdmann, S. Michael. “Did God die? If Jesus was God, and Jesus died on the cross, does that mean God died?” www.gotquestions.org/did-God-die.html) This position was also presented by one of the brightest minds of Trinitarianism, Dr. William Lane Craig, in this video: “Was God Dead for Three Days?” youtu.be/g4uhWvEpAvk [1]

Also, blood is liquid flesh so when the resurrected Jesus said he was "flesh and bones" blood was clearly included as he was not a zombie.

To review:
What did Jesus sacrifice that he did not still have or get back per the Trinitarian paradigm?

[The Trinitarian responses were that Jesus sacrificed his blood and that he was separated from the Father. But they also openly and publicly declare (wittingly or unwittingly) that Jesus still had blood and that he was NEVER separated from the Father as he was the second person of the impersonal Trinitarian Godhead the entire time. Thus, my question remains open.]

Footnote:
[1] Specifically from 0:55 to the end. Here he stated:
“So when Jesus died on the cross, his human nature died, not his divine nature, he died as a man. Human death is the separation of the soul from the body, and that's what happened when Jesus expired on the cross. His soul was separated from his body, which then became a lifeless corpse and was laid in the tomb, and then later we Christians believe was raised from the dead. So you can see that the divine nature, the divine person of Christ, is not in any way, um, extinguished in the death of the human nature of Christ on the cross.”
Thus he confirms the Trinitarian position that the person of Jesus never died, it was just his human nature on earth that expired. See also “Do You Reject Trinitarianism? (Point 1).” jimspace3000.blogspot.com/2010/11/normal-0-false-false-false.html

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